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I am Wez Furlong, Director of Engineering at Message Systems. My team is responsible for the fastest MTA on Earth.

I'm also a PHP Core developer and OpenSource contributor, residing in Maryland with Juliette, Xander and Lily. (read more)

10th May 2006 @ 18:40 EDT

I'm getting more and more irritated with windows apps that assume that they can do stuff that requires administrative privileges, like automatically install updates.

I don't run as an administrator because I don't want internet facing apps to mangle my system if/when they get hacked. For the past week I've been telling yahoo music engine that I don't want to upgrade now. It should be smart enough to realize that I don't have administrative rights and not prompt me.

Just now, I started to play a track and it gave me no option: it started to download the 8MB update with no way to cancel the operation, then attempted to install it, which failed.

While I'm not especially irritated by "do you want to upgrade now?" dialogs, I am very irritated by something that forces me to waste bandwidth on a download that I can't run. I don't even know where it downloaded the update to, so I might even have to download it again as the administrator. Ah, there it is: it was downloaded to %TEMP% with a temporary filename and a .tmp file extension.

This sucks; yahoo, fix your stuff.

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11th May 2006 @ 11:02 EDT

A nice option for windows programs to have would be to specify a folder where programs could download the updates into. Then if for whatever reason if you don't want your software to autoupdate, it could just download the software and somehow let you know.

The fact is that most clueless windows users (including myself) run in an administrative account. For the most part I appreciate the fact that my antivirus program (the only program that I use which updates itself) does so every couple days without bothering me.

by Aaron in .
11th May 2006 @ 15:49 EDT

Howdy. Ian from Yahoo! here. Sorry about that.

I'll kick this over to the team so they can take a look and try to figure out what happened here.

ian

by ian c rogers in .
11th May 2006 @ 15:53 EDT

Thanks Ian.

Just out of interest, did you land here because of the bug report I filed, or through some other means?

12th May 2006 @ 19:17 EDT

I didn't see the bug report, those don't come to me. My friend Jon Bauer sent me here.

ian

by ian c rogers in .
15th May 2006 @ 04:30 EDT

I think Microsoft swapped the names? So called "average users" are (mostly) Administrators and so called "admins" are (mostly) average users.

Peeps who have nothing to administrate don't need the extra protection.(joke) I do think you would have less reason to complain if it was called "secure log on" or something like that. Maybe even the yahoo's would use it then?

by gaby de wilde in .
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